PostFire: Phase 2 Debris Removal Q&A #3
TL;DR
2/2/25 Phase 2 Debris Removal Q&A #3
Host: iO Tillet- Wright, wildfire survivor and activist
https://www.iolovesyou.com/, postfirela.org
Guest: Colonel Eric Swinston Recovery Field Office Commander U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
https://www.mvp.usace.army.mil/About/Leadership/Bio-Article-View/Article/1898823/col-eric-swe nson/
Phase 2 Debris Removal Details
● Process & Timeline:
○ Each property takes 2–10 days, depending on complexity.
○ Standard home (2,000 sq. ft., flat lot): 2-4 days.
○ Complex structures (multi-tiered homes, hills): 8-10 days.
○ Work will happen simultaneously across multiple areas rather than block-by-block to minimize disruption.
● Resident Notifications:
○ Updates sent 3–5 days in advance and again the day before work begins. Homeowner Considerations
● Resident Participation:
○ Can observe debris removal and provide input.
○ Can request preservation of certain features (e.g., trees, landscaping) when submitting the ROE form.
● Tree Removal:
○ Trees assessed by an arborist for public safety risks.
○ Hazardous trees at risk of falling will be removed.
● Swimming Pools:
○ Not removed; sections may be cut if attached to the foundation.
○ Pools with ash/debris may be assessed by local health authorities.
○ Water may be used for dust control if deemed safe.
● Foundation Considerations:
○ Fire damage may compromise structural integrity.
○ Homeowners should consult experts before deciding to keep or remove the foundation.
○ Old foundations may limit new home designs.
● Septic Tanks:
○ Homeowners should indicate septic tank locations to prevent damage. ○ Efforts will be made to work around known septic systems.
Soil & Lot Remediation
● Soil Removal Process:
○ Six inches of soil removed within the ash footprint.
○ Goal: Eliminate hazardous materials while minimizing impact.
○ Soil removal does not extend beyond the ash footprint to avoid unnecessary costs.
● Additional Lot Considerations:
○ Partially burned wood outside the ash footprint is hand-collected. ○ Burned shrubs are not removed (not considered hazardous).
○ Fencing & Flatwork:
■ Stone fencing typically stays.
■ Fire-damaged wood fencing may be removed if eligible.
■ Driveways and flatwork are generally not removed.
○ Vehicles, boats, trailers, and other titled property are removed. ○ Tree stumps are not removed under this program.
Insurance & Financial Considerations
● Coverage Details:
○ Dwelling Coverage A: Funds allocated for rebuilding.
○ Debris removal coverage is typically separate.
○ Homeowners cannot receive insurance payouts for debris removal and also have the government perform the same work (no duplication of benefits). ● Billing & Payment:
○ The Army Corps does not bill homeowners; the county handles billing. ○ California FAIR Plan policyholders without debris removal coverage will not be billed.
○ Billing timeline is currently unknown.
Air Quality & Toxicity Concerns
● Ash & Air Quality Control:
○ Wet methods used to prevent ash dispersal.
○ Excavators collect ash, place it in plastic-lined dump trucks, and cover it for transport.
○ Air monitoring conducted around work sites, including near schools and senior centers.
○ Extra precautions taken if air quality drops.
● Toxicity & Hazardous Materials:
○ EPA removes the most dangerous hazardous materials (paint, propane tanks, asbestos).
○ Remaining toxic debris (burned appliances, ash, asbestos) is addressed in Phase 2.
○ If asbestos is found, it is mitigated before debris removal.
Traffic & Logistics
● Truck Movement:
○ 600-1500 trucks per day expected across the impacted area.
○ Truck beds wrapped with plastic and tarps to prevent debris from falling. ○ Residents should report any debris falling from trucks to the hotline. ● Traffic Impact:
○ Increased truck movement, but congestion is not expected to be excessive. Tree Markings & Removal
● EPA and Army Corps mark trees for assessment:
○ Data tags at the base.
○ Lines on the trunk indicate removal status.
○ Contractor payments are tracked based on marked trees.
Right of Entry (ROE) Amendments
● Can an ROE be amended?
○ Unclear—homeowners should check with LA County at 1-844-347-3332. Resources & Contact Information
● PostFire LA Website: postfirela.org (for submitting questions & Q&A updates). ● Upcoming Q&A Session:
○ Tuesday at 6 PM with an EPA representative on Phase One debris removal. ● Survivors Network: Encouraged for ongoing updates and support.
Debris Removal Questions & Complaints
● Hotline: Call 213-38-8305
● Email: socalwildfires@usace.army.mil
● Languages: English & Spanish.
● Purpose: Answers questions & directs inquiries to relevant agencies. Debris Removal Prioritization
● Set by cities & counties, prioritizing:
○ Ecologically sensitive locations.
○ Areas near occupied homes (for safety & peace of mind).
○ Working from the outside in where possible.
○ Crews will work simultaneously across multiple areas to expedite the process.
Additional Resources & Next Steps
● PostFire LA Website: postfirela.org for submitting questions and accessing Q&A pages. ● Upcoming Q&A:
○ Tuesday at 6 PM with an EPA representative to discuss Phase One debris removal.